I just replaced my crank and cam sensor and car still dont start

I have had an issue getting my car to start i have checked fuel pressure and codes i got a code for crank sensor. I replaced both the cam and crank sensor and car still will not start but if I unplug the crank sensor it starts up and runs like crap. I can not figure out what to do next.

My car has 91000 miles.
My car has an automatic transmission.

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You should check to see if your vehicle has jumped timing. Have a mechanic verify that the camshaft timing did not jump after scanning and looking at the crankshaft sensor data to verify it is giving a signal. If it is giving a signal, then the cam and crank signals are way off and causing the wrong ignition timing. If you need to have a local expert come check this problem for you, a certified technician from YourMechanic can come to your car’s location to diagnose the hard starting issue and pinpoint the correct fix.

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There`s a chance the new sensor is a dud or was installed incorrectly. This would cause your car not to start. Or, while installing the crankshaft position sensor, a new problem with your engine occurred. Engines are finicky, and a single misplaced component can cause your engine to not turn on at all.
NOT PERFORMING A RELEARN PROCESS

In rare cases the engine may misfire or go into “reduced power” or “limp mode” especially under high RPM/load situations Additionally, omission of the relearn process could cause the vehicle to be unable to pass an emissions test due to incomplete or failed misfire monitor.

While the new sensor is now installed, and you may get lucky and have it function perfectly right from the start, it`s highly recommended to “relearn” the sensor at this point in order to calibrate the entire system properly.
Unfortunately, there`s no way to reset a camshaft position sensor. If you`re having camshaft issues (check engine light on, acceleration trouble, sputtering and stalling, etc.), you`ll have to replace the part entirely.
You don`t need to reset it, once the engine turns over it will send the information to the ECM and the ECM will be ready to start the engine.
Bad Sensors

One common culprit for this problem is the crankshaft position sensor, which measures the position and speed of the crankshaft. The computer uses the information from this sensor to know when to fire the spark plugs. If the sensor isn`t working, the spark plugs won`t fire, keeping the engine from starting.

Once you install your new camshaft, you may need to go through a break-in procedure, depending on what the manufacturer recommends. This can be quite an extensive job for some vehicles – and if you do it incorrectly, engine damage can occur.
Rocker Arms: LC Engineering strongly recommends replacing the rocker arms when a new camshaft is installed. The main reason is that the rocker arm will wear or “burnish” before the camshaft lobe will.
Reasons for failure of the camshaft sensor can be: Mechanical damage. Break in the encoder wheel. Internal short circuits.
Slowly accelerate the engine to 4000 RPM (or indicated RPM for your vehicle). Hold RPM until engine speed drops back toward idle. Release throttle immediately once procedure is learned! Once the variation values are learned, the ECC will return engine control to the driver.
If your crankshaft sensor is not working properly, the motor control unit in your vehicle won`t be able to execute the changes to the fuel injection or to the spark timing whenever the engine speed climbs.
One sign that your crankshaft sensor might be failing is if you find it hard to start your vehicle. The sensor keeps track of the speed and location of the crankshaft. If it`s failing, your vehicle might be difficult to start up. In fact, the problem might be an intermittent one, which can make it more frustrating.
Can you drive without a crankshaft sensor? No. Driving without a functional crankshaft sensor is dangerous and can cause severe engine damage. If the crankshaft sensor in your car fails, you should repair or replace it quickly as possible.
Replacing the crankshaft is usually part of an engine overhaul job. However, unlike many other components you can simply remove from around the engine block, removing, handling and installing the crankshaft requires a special procedure.
Some vehicles may exhibit a powertrain control module (PCM) concern that results in no crank, no start or malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) with one or more diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) present.
The Camshaft sensor determines which cylinder is firing to establish injector synchronization and coil firing sequence in DIS systems. Crankshaft sensors set ignition timing, supply the RPM signal, and determine engine speed.
OBD2 Diagnostic Trouble Code P0340 indicates that the Camshaft Position Sensor `A` Circuit Malfunction in Bank 1 has been detected. The camshaft position sensor (CMP sensor) provides information regarding the rotational speed of the camshaft and where the camshaft is positioned in relationship to the crankshaft.
Error code P0340 indicates a malfunction with the camshaft position sensor A circuit. This type of malfunction can cause serious issues that require immediate repair because the underlying cause of the code could damage your vehicle`s engine if you continue to drive it.
At the least your engine won`t respond to “normal” base timing. At worst, the pistons will crash into the valves.
The camshaft rotates at half the speed or revolutions as the crankshaft. So for every 360 degrees of rotation for the crankshaft the camshaft(s) only rotate 180 degrees. 4 stroke engines rotate 2 times for a complete cycle. That means it takes 720 crank degrees to make a full cycle.
A broken camshaft is usually caused by a connecting rod or other rotating part coming loose and striking it. Sometimes the cam will break after a short time of use because of a crack or fracture in the cam due to rough handling during shipping or improper handling prior to installation.
Symptoms of a bad camshaft position sensor

The automobile is unable to start. Rough idle. Reduced power from the engine. Poor fuel efficiency.

Engine Misfires: A failing camshaft position sensor can cause your engine to misfire. Transmission Shifting Problems: The data sent to the engine control module can stop the transmission from shifting properly.
Due to the manufacturing processes, repairing a camshaft is not often advisable. While some high-performance engines use camshafts that are repairable, it`s not really cost effective or practical for the average car on the road. Instead, if your car needs a new camshaft, replacing it with a new one is the best choice.

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I just replaced my crank and cam sensor and car still dont start
ANSWER : You should check to see if your vehicle has jumped timing. Have a mechanic verify that the camshaft timing did not jump after scanning and looking at the crankshaft sensor data to verify it is giving a signal. If it is giving a signal, then the cam and crank signals are way off and causing the wrong ignition timing. If you need to have a local expert come check this problem for you, a certified technician from YourMechanic can come to your car’s location to diagnose the hard starting issue and pinpoint the correct fix.

Map sensor car won’t start up good ?
ANSWER : Your MAP sensor is an important input for your computer. It helps determine the load on the engine to calculate the correct amount of fuel to inject. It sometimes takes a few seconds for the vehicle to realize that the sensor is not producing a good signal.

At that point, it will use other methods to determine the fuel rate, such as pre-programmed fuel maps, throttle position, etc. I would suggest replacing the MAP sensor and retesting. If you would like to have it checked first, a certified technician from YourMechanic will be able to scan your vehicle and test components to determine the root cause of your starting issue before making a repair.

Ok my car will not start it had the same issue a week ago I changed the cam and crank sensors. It cranks but wont start …HELP!
ANSWER : Prior to performing diagnostics be sure you have a fully charged battery that passes a load test. Then, confirm that the engine immobilizer system (security system) is not activated thus preventing the car from starting. To temporarily override the immobilizer system, see these instructions.

Be sure there is adequate fuel in the fuel tank and that the fuel is not old. Check for adequate fuel pressure, injector operation, and a spark at the spark plugs. Basically, if the starter motor is turning the engine over rapidly, at sufficient RPM, but the engine does not catch and run, that means that there is an ignition, fuel, air induction, or mechanical fault in the engine that will have to be repaired. Strictly speaking, you should first check engine compression in the cylinders because if there is no, or inadequate, compression the engine won’t run under any circumstances. If compression is found to be within factory specifications, and there is fresh fuel being delivered by the injectors (not just "to" the injectors) and the ignition system is working, that means that the air fuel ratio of the mixture delivered to the cylinders is so far off that the mixture just won’t ignite. Such could be due to a big vacuum leak, an air induction fault like a stuck idle air control valve or, considering fuel, could be due to a failed temperature sensor that must be working properly to signal the PCM to enrich the mixture on cold start. Other common faults are defective spark plugs or a defective coil. Regardless of the underlying cause, if you request a no start diagnostic the responding certified mechanic will get the problem diagnosed and repaired for you promptly. Please let us know if you have further concerns or questions as we are always here to help you.

check engine light code said replace cam sensor will not crank with new sensor but wiil crank with old sensor
ANSWER : Hi there:

That is a very off symptom you’re describing. Without being there to phyisicaly inspect your Nissan, the only thing I’d guess that might be causing this is if the cam sensor you installed was the incorrect one, or perhaps the electrical harness created an electrical fault; causing the ignition relay to not send a signal to the starter relay. You might want to have a professional mobile mechanic complete a car is hard to start inspection; so they can determine why you’re having this issue.

My car will not start Intermittently. I purchased a new battery 2 weeks ago and yesterday the car wouldn’t start. Got a jump and
ANSWER : The issue you are having is probably due to an intermittent fault in the starter motor itself or a deficiency in the starter electrical circuit, for example a large voltage drop due to a poor ground or a high resistance connection. These issues can be readily diagnosed and resolved on a mobile basis if you request a hard starting diagnostic. If you request that diagnostic, the responding certified mechanic will get this resolved for you promptly. Based on Toyota’s Factory Service Manual, the battery should not be disconnected if the vehicle engine is running. The battery acts as a large resistive voltage sink and consequently taking the battery out of the circuit, while the alternator is still running, can create a voltage spike on the car’s electrical system which is not good for voltage sensitive components such as the engine computer. If you have further questions or concerns, do not hesitate to re-contact YourMechanic as we are always here to help you.

Check engine light is on, shows cam sensor that I already replaced two times. Still the same code for camshaft sensor. It starts if I unplug cam sensor
ANSWER : Hello there, thanks for writing in. I’d be happy to help.

If you replaced the sensor twice and the issue persists, then I would look at the connector and ECM as possible sources of the issue. I would carefully inspect the connector to the cam sensor for any signs of oil leakage, damage, or wear, both on the wires and on the metal contacts. If the wiring looks okay I would move on to testing the wiring to make sure that the correct signal is being generated, if it is not then it may be possible that there is an issue with the ECM or wiring. It may also be possible that the aftermarket sensors are the source of the issue, even if they are new. In many cases aftermarket components are not as high of quality as OEM components, and for that reason can cause issues.

If you would like help, consider having an expert automotive technician from YourMechanic come to your home or office to inspect and diagnose this issue for you, and make any repairs as needed.

When I go to crank my car the key stays in the start position and the car is constantly trying to crank itself.
ANSWER : First, let’s make sure about some terminology before I proceed. I will assume the motor is actually turning over. If the car is trying to start, the motor has to be turning over or it is not trying to start. This is an important distinction when diagnosing the starting system. As a technician, I go to different parts of the system based on this description.

If the key is stuck in the start position, this is a ignition lock cylinder issue and the reason the starter continues to turn the motor over. If the starter is turning but the motor is not, then the starter is likely the problem. Either that or the teeth on the flex plate are all gone. This would require removing the transmission to repair.

If the car runs intermittently, this can be a big challenge. And it also means the starting system is working. It will need to be diagnosed when it is failing. A working car cannot be diagnosed because there is nothing wrong. Where you park your car should not have any affect. It certainly could be a wiring problem. Wiring problems hide really well and can happen anywhere in the miles of wires that are in your car. Isolating the system that is failing is really important here. At the moment I am unsure which system is failing. Starter system, ignition lock cylinder and or ignition switch electrical or something with the engine control system.

When the car is failing, you need to check for spark and fuel pressure. If neither is present, this is a clue. Usually the crank sensor will do this. Does your car have a tachometer? If so, does it move at all when cranking. This is a clue whether or not the cam and or crank sensor is working. Is there a Check Engine Light on with the key on? If there is a Check Engine Light, the code or codes can be used for specific diagnosis.

All of these concerns will send you down a diagnostic path. Be sure not to confuse yourself by misinterpreting multiple system failures. If the key does stick in the start position, this would be the first problem to solve. After that, does the motor actually turn when the starter turns? After that, the question of "Why won’t it start?" is first answered by finding what the motor is lacking. Fuel, spark etc… Good luck.

If you need assistance with these checks, contact a certified mechanic who has the tools and experience needed to properly diagnose this starting issue with your car.

Car won’t start after replacing cam sensor – 2006 Scion xA
ANSWER : Hello. You will need to have the computer scanned and system checked for codes indicating the problem. You may have a bad crankshaft sensor or computer problems with the anti-theft system. If you would like to have this corrected, consider YourMechanic, as a certified professional can come to your home or office to pinpoint the cause of the starting issue and assist with repair.