Cooling fan only works when A/C is on

Dear Sir,
Please,my cooling fan use to be on each time I start the engine. It will be working even when the A/C is on. I just noticed that the temperature gauge comes up a little from eight O clock position to 9 O clock position both when the A/C is on or not. The next morning I started the engine without A/C the fan did not work. I now put the A/C, it started working. Please is this normal or what is wrong? Please help me out. Thanks
My car has an automatic transmission.
Experienced mechanics share their insights in answering this question :
You may be seeing the fan work normal. The fan should not be on all the time when the a/c is not on. With a/c off the temperature will rise some and then fan will come on to lower temperature and then turn off again. If you do not get this and temperature continues to climb and overheat then the coolant fan switch needs replaced. If in doubt then have a mechanic like one from YourMechanic come and verify proper operation of fan.

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The most likely culprits are a thermostatic switch, fan resistor, temperature switch, low-speed or high-speed relay, or a wiring issue.
The radiator fan should always turn on when the AC is on because the radiator fan doubles as a condenser fan. The condenser is a second smaller radiator sitting in front of the coolant radiator and serves to cool down the high-pressure refrigerant.
Most likely the temperature sensor that operates the fan under normal circumstances is faulty. The AC controls may operate the fan from a place in the control circuit after the normal temp sensor so everything is OK when the AC is on. Also the Fan may be on continuously when the AC is operating.
The most common reasons for a radiator fan not working can be a blown-out fuse, a bad relay, or a broken wire. The faulty coolant temp sensor might also be a reason behind it. Whatever the case, a dysfunctional radiator fan can be fatal.
On most modern cars, the cooling fan is controlled by the Engine Control Unit (ECU) which gets a signal from the coolant temperature sensor. If it`s not working, the fan won`t turn on when it needs to, which means the engine might overheat.
Common signs include engine overheating, the Check Engine Light coming on, and a broken or shorter signal wire.
Depending on the type of radiator fan your car has, it may be powered by a built-in electric motor or directly by your car`s engine. Either way, it uses a thermostatically-controlled device that turns on the fan when the coolant reaches its safe maximum temperature.
If the thermostat is stuck open (allowing coolant to flow) it can cause the engine to run cooler than normal so obviously the fan wouldn`t come on…..but not like the engine/coolant can be running too hot and the thermostat somehow effects the sensor reading or operation of the fan.
Your radiator fan should kick in at about 200 degrees Fahrenheit. If you notice your vehicle is overheating or at the very least running hotter than it normally does, listen for the fan to see if you can hear it.
The activation of the cooling fan when the engine is cold suggests the presence of one or more wiring issues within the vehicle. Potential culprits include a faulty fan relay, a malfunctioning ECU, or a bad thermostat.
The most common causes of broken air conditioning are leaks or compressor issues. If your air is blowing cool but not cold, the problem could be a clogged filter, cooling fan problem, radiator trouble, or it could simply be that you need to recharge your AC.

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