Lost power to my front brakes but i still have power to the back.
i feel like i have lost power to my front brakes and am not sure if the are releasing all the way. i feel all the breaking coming from the back end. i have bled all four corners and still have no pressure. the peddle goes all the way to the floor. i am suspecting that it could be the proportioning valve but i am not positive. is there any way to know for sure if it is my PV or could it be my master cylinder?
My car has 160000 miles.
My car has an automatic transmission.
Experienced mechanics share their insights in answering this question :
Hello and thank you for your question. When you were able to bleed all four brakes FR, FL, RR, RL, then the proportioning valve is okay. If the valve was sticking, you would not be able to get any fluid out from it.
When you step on the brakes and the pedal goes to the floor and your pedal is spongy, that is a sign of air in the system. Try bleeding all the ports in the vehicle including the master cylinder. Once you have done so, test the brake pedal for any firmness.
If the pedal is still spongy, check all over the brake system for any external leaks. If there are no leaks found, then your master cylinder has failed internally and will not apply correctly.
To verify this condition, press on the brake pedal all the way to the floor and feel the sponginess. Then pump the brake pedal fast. The pedal should start to get firm and then go down to the floor and become spongy again. This means the seals inside the master cylinder are leaking internally.
I recommend replacing the master cylinder and bleeding the vehicle again. If you need assistance with diagnosing your brake system or replacing the master cylinder, then contact a technician, like one from YourMechanic, to assist you.
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Air in the brake line(s) is the most common cause of a soft/spongy brake pedal. If air gets into the brake lines, it can prevent brake fluid from flowing properly, causing the brake pedal to feel spongy or soft. If the brakes are soft or spongy, this is a good time to change or flush the brake fluid.
A failing brake booster loses the ability to amplify the force from your foot, which translates to you having to use more effort when pressing the brake pedal. This lowered force on the master cylinder reduces hydraulic pressure in the brake fluid, making it harder to brake.
The most likely cause of a sinking pedal with no external leakage is a faulty brake master cylinder that`s leaking internally. Were the brakes hot, we might consider boiling fluid due to moisture contamination or friction material gassing.
When brakes are not as responsive as what they should be, or if the brake pedal “sinks” down to the floor, this is a possible indication of a braking system leak. It could be a brake fluid leak, or a brake hose air leak.
A malfunctioning Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) can also cause a hard brake pedal. The ABS system is responsible for preventing the wheels from locking up during emergency braking. If the ABS system malfunctions, it may cause a loss of hydraulic pressure, resulting in a hard brake pedal.
Brake fluid in the booster can damage the booster diaphragm. Not only that, a brake fluid leak will reduce hydraulic pressure in brake lines and possibly introduce air into the brake fluid, reducing pressure even further.
The vacuum sensor (or pressure sensor) is an important part of the brake boosters in modern cars. Its purpose is to monitor the amount of vacuum present in the brake booster, sending a message to your car`s onboard computer when more vacuum pressure is needed.
1) Line pressure can only be increased by either increasing the mechanical pedal ratio or by decreasing the master cylinder diameter. In either case the pedal travel will be increased. 2) Clamping force can only be increased either by increasing the line pressure or by increasing the diameter of the caliper piston(s).
With the car turned off, pump the brake pedal four or five times until you get a hard brake pedal. Continue to hold the brake pedal down with moderate pressure and start the vehicle. The brake pedal should drop. If this brake pedal remains hard, there is a problem with the brake booster, such as a ripped diaphragm.
One of the most common reasons for your brakes touching the floor would be an issue with your brake fluid. Your fluid being low or air reaching the brake line will prevent the fluid from flowing properly, resulting in a spongy pedal. A bad brake booster is another common cause for a malfunctioning pedal.
Air in the Lines: The number one most common cause for pumping your brakes to get them to work is air in the lines. This may be because your brakes were recently serviced but not bled correctly.
The most common fault with brake servos will be a split breather pipe resulting in a sucking or whooshing noise. This can give you the effect of a very hard brake pedal.
If the pedal doesn`t move at all, insufficient vacuum is being generated and there is definitely a fault in the servo system. Check the entire vacuum system including all connected components such as the exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) valve, engine vacuum pump and fuel pressure regulator.
Removing a wheel speed sensor will disable ABS—and sometimes, stability control. If your car has a yaw sensor, you can unplug that for results. You can also try simply unplugging the ABS module, though that could adversely affect your car`s braking performance.
Resetting Your ABS Dashboard Warning Light
Step One: Disconnect the positive cable from your car battery. Then, hold down the brake pedal to drain the vehicle`s electrical system. This will result in a reset of the car`s central computer. Plug the cable back in to restore power.
With so much vacuum pressure flowing through the system, this can even cause brake fluid to end up inside the booster, as can damage to the seals in the master cylinder.
Overheated hydro-booster can be a result of unusually hot temperatures outside the car, which can damage the seal and spool vane of your hydraulic brake booster. Failed power steering is a symptom of hydraulic boosters. If the power steering is failing, the boosters eventually will as well.
Unscrew the brake master cylinder reservoir cap. Using a funnel, slowly pour the brake fluid into the fluid reservoir while keeping the brakes pressed down to create pressure and push out any air bubbles forming. Be careful not to exceed the maximum brake fluid level.
1) Line pressure can only be increased by either increasing the mechanical pedal ratio or by decreasing the master cylinder diameter. In either case the pedal travel will be increased. 2) Clamping force can only be increased either by increasing the line pressure or by increasing the diameter of the caliper piston(s).
Unscrew the brake master cylinder reservoir cap. Using a funnel, slowly pour the brake fluid into the fluid reservoir while keeping the brakes pressed down to create pressure and push out any air bubbles forming. Be careful not to exceed the maximum brake fluid level.
The most common reason for a soft brake pedal is simply air still in the system. The easiest way to diagnose this problem is to pump the brake pedal gently a few times. In doing so, the pedal should become firmer with each gentle press of the pedal.
The most common reason for a soft brake pedal is simply air still in the system. The easiest way to diagnose this problem is to pump the brake pedal gently a few times. In doing so, the pedal should become firmer with each gentle press of the pedal.
1) Line pressure can only be increased by either increasing the mechanical pedal ratio or by decreasing the master cylinder diameter. In either case the pedal travel will be increased. 2) Clamping force can only be increased either by increasing the line pressure or by increasing the diameter of the caliper piston(s).
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When you step on the brakes and the pedal goes to the floor and your pedal is spongy, that is a sign of air in the system. Try bleeding all the ports in the vehicle including the master cylinder. Once you have done so, test the brake pedal for any firmness.
If the pedal is still spongy, check all over the brake system for any external leaks. If there are no leaks found, then your master cylinder has failed internally and will not apply correctly.
To verify this condition, press on the brake pedal all the way to the floor and feel the sponginess. Then pump the brake pedal fast. The pedal should start to get firm and then go down to the floor and become spongy again. This means the seals inside the master cylinder are leaking internally.
I recommend replacing the master cylinder and bleeding the vehicle again. If you need assistance with diagnosing your brake system or replacing the master cylinder, then contact a technician, like one from YourMechanic, to assist you.
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